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Developing Starter Issue



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kentvette

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Mon 18 Jun 18 17:31

Developing Starter Issue


On our latest runs out in the old '78 I have noticed a developing issue with the starter motor.

Back in the late 90’s I experienced the classic “hot start” situation – switching off the car and trying to start within 3-10 minutes meant that turning the key resulted in nothing, just a click. Once the starter had cooled off (after abut 15 minutes) it would start. That was cured by a starter re-build, which included a new solenoid.

However, recently I have noticed a slightly different behaviour. The car starts fine from cold. But, on occasions, after being switched off for about 5 minutes (just enough time to buy fuel for example), when I start the car the starter is “lazy”. By that I mean it is reluctant to turn over immediately, then does so very slowly, as in a dead or dying battery. So far, it has started! When cold however, or if left for longer period, like half a day at an event, it starts normally and the starter seems to spin over well enough.

The battery was fitted in January 2014, so is now a little over 4 years old. I’ve checked the various earth connections and all seem tight and clean.

So, does this sound like another starter re-build is necessary? Or, is it better to replace?

What is the situation with “shims” for the starter? I recall reading that this is a necessary process, something I avoided with a re-build of course.

As the car is an auto of course, so I don’t want to get caught out somewhere!

Any thoughts advice please?


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Sid.123

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Tue 19 Jun 18 13:34

Re: Developing Starter Issue


I havent experienced this with the vette but i used to get it on my old trans am 400. It does help putting heat insulation between the block and starter but if i remember correctly the only permanant way was a replacement.


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CaptainK

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Mon 16 Jul 18 14:13


That sounds exactly like the situation with my old starter. Over time it got worse and worse resulting in it not bothering to start about 90% of the time.

Turns out mine was a combination of needing the starter rebuilding (much happier now!) and also the wiring from battery to starter not looking the best any more.

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kentvette

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Mon 16 Jul 18 18:41

Re: Developing Starter Issue


When I had the problem way back when, it was solved with a starter re-build.

Having had valuable advice, I removed the starter and stripped and cleaned the solenoid. I also when over every connection - battery terminals, earth points on chassis and engine, starter terminals etc.

Having had a couple of runs out recently, in some very warm weather, it seems,so far, to be better. So, I'm hoping that I'll avoid a starter re-build, not so easy to arrange here.
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