C4 Headlamp pod motor gears rebuild

TimP

CCCUK Member
Having found a set of left hand traffic (dip to the right, RHD) lights for the C4 it was time to fit them and also to cure the clack-clack-clack sound that goes on for 5 or 6 seconds whenever the pods are raised or lowered. I believe this is quite a common problem with C4 where the plastic gear set in the motor disintegrates through old age. Thus two jobs to be done but a little easier to do together with everything on the bench.

There are a number of you tube videos that cover this repair but I chose this one (see link) from Mirrock Corvette in the US (Pennsylvania judging by the accent) which was really nicely explained. It also shows how the motors can be rebuilt without the replacement gears and just uses a 7/16th rod of Delrin to form the replacement parts.

C4 Headlamp motor rebuild -Mirrock Corvette

I won't repeat what can be seen on the video but here are a few pictures that show how it turned out on my '92.

The inside of each motor gearbox had the tell-tale powder of the disintegrated gear although the main gears that engage with the worm drive on the motors were both in good condition.
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Once cleaned three 11mm lengths of the Delrin rod were cut off for each pod. They are supposed to be 7/16" but I could only get 12mm which is a tad too big (7/16" = 11.1mm) so they had to be gently sanded down to the right diameter before everything would fit nicely.
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Careful remembering where all the factory shims went, reassembly was pretty straightforward. I used silicone grease to pack the new gear set. The most difficult thing to do seemed to be to get the electrical headlamp connector to fit back on its mount in the side of the front wing - it took ages, I was probably doing something wrong. The time to do both pods was about 4 hours.

The headlamps (fitted with LED H4 bulbs) seem to work ok but I will take the car out late one evening this week to see how they are at night. They will probably need some alignment but I can't believe that they will be any worse than they were before.

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Quite pleased with the result: the clack-clack has gone and they index round noiselessly. These should now be UK legal - they are E-marked and hopefully should be good deal brighter than the originals.

I still have enough Delrin rod to fix about 6 more headlamp motors so if anybody wants some, just let me know.
 

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TimP

CCCUK Member
Is it just the angle of photo or does the head unit need adjusting a bit as gaps in front corners showing ?

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I did each pod separately and put the first one back to the mimic the other so they are both the same. When closes the positioning and dit is really good but I must admit I was a little disappointed that when open the look like they don't fit so well. Would you have a picture of what a good set up looks like? Should the base of the pod line up with the bodywork when open?
 

TimP

CCCUK Member
This looks a bit better.... although looking from this angle I think there is still a little adjustment required to make the bottom gap parallel. So much easier to adjust these than the C3 pods - clearly the GM engineers learned to do things a little simpler in the later generation.

Need a clean as well.... Thanks for the help/advice.(y)
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Steven Smith

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Have you got a link to the headlights, I looked up the part number you put in a previous post but it always came back with a longer part number.
 

TimP

CCCUK Member
Having tested the new LED headlamps yesterday at night (and rather embarrassingly, running out of fuel at the same time - what a moron) I realised that the blue main beam warning light was on whenever the headlamps were switched on, mains or no mains. Some research on the US Corvetteforum site, where a very good post describes the problem and solution, showed that this is due to the need for a ballast resistor between the the main beam connector and earth.

I will speak to classiccarleds on Monday to see if they have integral ballast with the H4 bulb that I can use. Alternatively I will make some adjustments to incorporate this in as neat as possible a way.
 

TimP

CCCUK Member
Have you got a link to the headlights, I looked up the part number you put in a previous post but it always came back with a longer part number.
There seem to be a number of Hella lamp units that are very similar - I ordered the -041 item but the part number on the actual light unit that arrived was slightly different (ILE 003 427-04)


I bought mine here (eBay)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/395248073073?_skw=HELLA+1LE+003+427-041&itmmeta=01K5KQQY9YKB7JHH3WTTMX5MBP&hash=item5c069ef971:g:tNYAAOSwgrVl5za5&itmprp=enc:AQAKAAAA8FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1ewC6S9UdRCWudI5ywzL9gLCLWqxRFH3KqsnBd+5Cjg/slc5k3v4BMVF4zJ147N30F9S0ryV+n8QtGQLJXrVs/qSzdRrq5LCdKaoYh91hv6SQzTkFntPdTJqjbULliAh3HS/7/Sx2tJwX+JM/GXhc/yyeJbvxEVI4hfVFQXkuvyFNAj9NZMEfK6TMWQjCddT6I2tX56ZDZ2NZBU9B/+AtscXwDD0XWZED8RB7c/vy25c9Sy+1uiOYSzLTtHUdy+jp0CGKHG+JVkqx6J+2+RcC4Cxln/FWBpuVKiI+Oj/DlUuw==|tkp:Bk9SR5Ll3_esZg

It says last one on the posting but it said that before I bought my mine so....

They are also available here (eBay again).. who apparently are authorised Hella Dealers
HELLA GENUINE OEM 1LE003427-041 LEFT OR RIGHT HEADLIGHT H4 + SIDE LIGHT | eBay UK

The hella website catalogue listing for these units is here ....it's also available on the Australian and NZ Hella catalogues which is reassuring as they drive on the left too.
https://cat.hella.com/web/public/hella/en/all/all/na/$catalogue/2/na/na/parameters/$product/1LE+003+427-041_3335/keywords.xhtml?result=1758378741958

Hope that helps...
 
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