Exciting day - rebuild of 78 coupe

teamzr1

Supporting vendor
If only you lived nearby - I'd hand you my 1968 327 and ask nicely to get you to make it have those power outputs.

It was all in the COMP MAGNUM CAM I selected for a 327 CI engine with long tube headers
LSA is only 110 so will be a choppy idle

Good power from 2,000 to 5,500 RPMs

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johng

CCCUK Member
For the sort of revs you were probably doing the manifolds might have made little difference. Perhaps go up a jet size in the secondaries or are you on a AFB/Edel?

I think it’ll mainly depend on what silencers you had on. If they were straight through or not.
Went for a drive today. When cruising it's a similar volume to the old exhaust but a nicer tone. The old system used to drone a bit. When you put the pedal to the metal it sounds more like a machine gun! Performance wise it doesn't feel much different, if anything it accelerates a little slower. I've still got the original Quadrajet on the car, which I need to fit a new top gasket to anyway (when I stripped it down last year I noticed the gasket was a bit damaged but didn't have a spare at the time). Whilst I've got it opened I'll check the float height and the Adjustable Part Throttle setting, from what I've read they are the only simple changes you can make. You can't really put bigger jets in the late model Quadrajets, they already have big ones.
 

teamzr1

Supporting vendor
You have access to a wideband O2 sensor to place into the end of the exhaust and AFR meter to measure ?
If using E5 or E10 gas, for non WOT I would adjust carb for non WOT at like 14.4:1 and for WOT like 12.5:1 AFR

Monitor for engine knock and adjust to reduce that with carb or timing
 

Forrest Gump

CCCUK regional rep
It was all in the COMP MAGNUM CAM I selected for a 327 CI engine with long tube headers
LSA is only 110 so will be a choppy idle

Good power from 2,000 to 5,500 RPMs

I decided on a Magnum cam when I built my 383, nice to see you rate them too. An old design and single profile but still seem popular. I used a build spec from David Vizard who has dyno’d hundreds of cams, if he likes the Magnum, that’s good enough for me!

Do you think those HP figures from the Comp Cams software look a little optimistic despite the great cam? Virtually 400hp from a motor with stock-ish heads, dual plane intake, medium compression and not particularly high revving?
 

johng

CCCUK Member
You have access to a wideband O2 sensor to place into the end of the exhaust and AFR meter to measure ?
If using E5 or E10 gas, for non WOT I would adjust carb for non WOT at like 14.4:1 and for WOT like 12.5:1 AFR

Monitor for engine knock and adjust to reduce that with carb or timing
Unfortunately I don't have a way to measure my AFR and as things seem to be going I could really do with one. I've always thought that my engine was unmolested, I got lots of history with the car and there's no mention of anything being done to the engine, plus all the original parts were still attached to it (even though several didn't actually work).
However, following some email conversations with Lars Grimsrud (the acknowledged Quadrajet guru on the US forum) I've stripped my carb with the intention of first making sure everything was set up correctly and then raising the float height and Adjustable Part Throttle to richen the mixture slightly. First I found that the aluminium plug above the APT adjuster had been removed and the APT was already set high. Then I discovered that the arms that the primary rods hang from were bent upwards (raising the rods even higher) and lastly the rods that are fitted are a lot smaller than standard. Since all of these things richen the mixture, I don't really understand how come the car has always started and run fine and generally returns around 17mpg (UK gallons).
Does anyone know where I might get some replacement primary rods in the UK? I can get them from the US, but for some reason postage costs for these tiny items is a ridiculous $70 (+ 20% import VAT).
 

Roscobbc

Moderator
Can't speak for the Quadrajet but my experience with Holley's is they are very tolerant of jetting and adjustments. Changing jets rarely makes any measurable difference in fuel economy unless the change is significant or secondaries are kicking-in all the time
 

antijam

CCCUK Member
I've bought parts from QuadrajetParts.com in the States (who incidentally are very helpful) and in all cases the postage was $28.80. Admittedly this was four years ago but shipping costs of $70 does sound excessive.
I've found that swapping primary jets on the Quadrajet - even by one size makes a very significant difference in economy and stable running.
 

johng

CCCUK Member
Unfortunately the only one of those websites that has the rods I need (K series 49 or 50) and that will ship to the UK is Quadrajetparts.com
 

antijam

CCCUK Member
Unfortunately the only one of those websites that has the rods I need (K series 49 or 50) and that will ship to the UK is Quadrajetparts.com
If a seller won't ship to the UK they will quite often ship free to an american address. If so it can be worth using MyUS. They will give you an address in the States to have the parts shipped to and then they send them on to you. Their business being solely shipping they can negotiate very favourable bulk rates with the major shipping services - check the rate for your package on their website. I've used them several times - they're very efficient and it's free to join. Even if the internal shipping in the States isn't free it can still be worth using MyUS.
 

teamzr1

Supporting vendor
How about this one of these in the UK, or maybe they could point to where your parts can be bought





 

johng

CCCUK Member
If a seller won't ship to the UK they will quite often ship free to an american address. If so it can be worth using MyUS. They will give you an address in the States to have the parts shipped to and then they send them on to you. Their business being solely shipping they can negotiate very favourable bulk rates with the major shipping services - check the rate for your package on their website. I've used them several times - they're very efficient and it's free to join. Even if the internal shipping in the States isn't free it can still be worth using MyUS.
That looks good, how does the import VAT get paid? I can't see any reference to it on their website
 

johng

CCCUK Member
New jets and rods ordered from Quadrajetparts and being shipped to MyUS address in Florida for the princely sum of $8.20. MyUs will ship to me for $23.29, so a total cost of $31.49 rather than $72 direct from the supplier. Thanks Antijam.
 

antijam

CCCUK Member
New jets and rods ordered from Quadrajetparts and being shipped to MyUS address in Florida for the princely sum of $8.20. MyUs will ship to me for $23.29, so a total cost of $31.49 rather than $72 direct from the supplier. Thanks Antijam.
Great - hope it goes smoothly for you. Where MyUS can be really useful is when you're buying from several different suppliers. If you get all your purchases sent to your US address MyUS will consolidate them into one shipment before sending them on. This can really save on international shipping costs.
 
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