Bangers & Cash 1977 Saudi Corvette JNH 820T

Daytona Vette

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My first Hand held was the Motorola you see in the above pics later installed as a car phone, it came as a portable unit with a massive battery and carrying case, it all could be uncoupled and used as a car system, which I did as above, I bought it trade from my friend who had a communication business £1k at the time with a spare battery - I ruined the batteries by over charging - but before the hand held phone came, the in car and before cell net phone came, I had one in my Cortina Estate 1600cc "W" reg - to dial out you pressed the button to get the operator, you told her the number and she put you through, if you returned to the car and the red light was on, you pressed the button and asked who called you and then she would connect you - all of this through Martin Dawes who became / were swallowed by Racal Vodaphone - so car phones pre hand helds, the first Motorola Flip Phone was either £500 or £1K I can't remember now, I have both figures in my mind.
 

Daytona Vette

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Nice/neat install there Barry. Momo (Nero - leather & alcantara) steering wheel looked good on my C4 too. On mine, the Alpine head unit (radio & CD) was mounted flush in the centre of the dash where the radio would have been with the equaliser above it. In the back, the speakers sat in a (partitioned inside) box that filled the whole trunk as you can. Main (700w) amp accesable in the front of the box, and another 70w amp, and another tuner of some sort inside the box. But you're right, that's 1980's technology/sound quality.
Yes No gearbox cutting - it was only the front of the Graphic installed, it had been separated from the box and re-connected to it by a long length of ribbon wiring and the Graphic box was situated behind the seats in one of the cubby holes with the two amps for front and rear.
 

funchi

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Hi Daytona Vette I am still here, but can't find my thinking cap so no answer yet.

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funchi

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Hi Daytona (y) although I am retired I have been busy today so not had the time to play Quizical, may have a go tomorrow, I don't think my first thoughts are the answer to your Quizical.

I thought I better add my first guess gearbox, in case someone knows the answer, I forgot the club is full of petrol heads who can spot an aftermarket carburettor jet at 100 yards in old money.
 
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Daytona Vette

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Hi Daytona (y) although I am retired I have been busy today :mad: so not had the time to play Quizical, may have a go tomorrow, I don't think my first thoughts are the answer to your Quizical.

I thought I better add my first guess gearbox, in case someone knows the answer, I forgot the club is full of petrol heads who can spot an aftermarket carburettor jet at 100 yards in old money.
Yes pretty good, the majority of 80 Vettes were auto and likewise the 73 / 74 Astons were in the majority auto - both Borg Warner 3 speed auto boxes - well sussed!
 

funchi

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Hi Daytona Vette cheers the main reason for thinking that, you started getting my grey cells working again naming local companies and places etc.

Remember when you put Custom Maid in one of your reply's, I replied back that Custom Maid rebuilt my XJS automatic box because it was fitted to US cars and I put photos of my XJS on my post.

I know back then Aston Martin and Jaguar were not under the same umbrella company but thought because the automatic gearbox was so complex they could have bought US boxes, especially as the US had been building them for years.

This post could be getting a bit black and macabre. (Quizical)

Because you mentioned automatic boxes out selling stick shifts, the facts 34838 automatic and 5726 stick shifts.

I thought I would add to the post that I purchased my 1980 Corvette from a shipping millionaire and it was a stick shift.

There were 2 reason for automatic boxes out stripping stick shifts sales, one I would expect the Americans liked autos and two you could only get the L82 slightly higher 190 BHP engine in auto, all stick shifts were L48’s 180 BHP engines.

Now for the black and macabre part, when I purchased my car from Andres Ugland of Ugland shipping lines he told me he and his brother had bought a 1980 Corvette each while in the States, Andres wanted a stick shift and his brother wanted the slightly larger L82 engine.

I have just done a Google search for Andres Ugland and he has just recently passed away, please read below.

Investment banker, shipping merchant and owner of Cayman Islands Motor Museum, Andreas Ove Ugland has passed away after a short illness. Died: 18 April 2019

Born in Norway on March 8 1955, he was 64 years old.

The Cayman Motor Museum was the realization of Ugland's vision to have a local showroom for his collection of 80 rare, exotic classic cars and motorbikes, 'including a yellow Rolls-Royce from the 1964 film of the same title, starring Ingrid Bergman, Elton John’s old Bentley, and Peter Sellers’s Ferrari and the Batmobile, built for the 1960s television series,' according to Powerboat racing world magazine.

"Before assembling our collection in Cayman," said Mr. Ugland, "our motorcars were scattered throughout the world with many of them in England, Canada, and my home country of Norway. My wife, Natalie, and I conceived the notion of bringing them all to Cayman for the people of these islands, and our visitors, to enjoy."

Ugland and his wife Natalie were also advocates and supporters of Caymanian culture and the arts.

Worth checking out the museum website. Cayman Motor Museum – Grand Cayman And to think I am only 5 weeks older than Andreas.

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funchi

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I need to cheer my self up after that very sad news.

I now think one of the sexiest Corvettes a 63 split sceen.

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funchi

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I wonder if anyone has ever seen one of these cars, I don't remember ever seeing any in magazines but could have.

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funchi

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Hi Daytona Vette one for you, another stunning Daytona Corvette.

My first visit to the USA with my family 1988.

As a few of you will recognise Ecklers Florida, plus a few more cars from Florida.

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Daytona Vette

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Hi Funchi, so that is how you got it, Jag box sorted at Custom Maid, yes the Borg Warner 3 Speed auto Transmission was used on Vettes, Jags, Rolls Royces and obviously many more
The 73 / 74 Astons are worth more in Manual and in all honesty they deserve a better box than the Auto they had, but that is present day experience, because we now experience state of the art Auto Boxes and it shows up the Box in the Aston (I suppose it could do with a shift kit to tighten it up a bit).
The Aston shape that your brother owned, in my opinion regardless of year is the last of the True Aston Martins.

To my demerit I own up to the following, I as many would get a buz out of pulling along side a car at speed and then leave them standing, you can not beat doing that in a de-badged RS6 Estate car, you look in the mirror and see them disappearing to a spec in a very very short time (Showing off comes to mind, but not with the de-badged car, with the imense torque and aggressive power)
Now why have I mentioned my demerit, because many moons ago, I did precisely the above with an Aston of the same era of your brother's on the motorway, he was doing quite a terminal speed and I pulled up along side and then I left him, I was in an MGB GT V8, I remember it very well because as soon as I accelerated away from him, I felt so small, my car was no match for the ethos of an Aston, I felt a fool and I still remember it 40 plus years later.

Now why do I know that the same Auto boxes were used, well it is a long story, which I am not going to go into, but it was for a de-badged Volvo 960 24 valve manual estate that I owned, it woke up one morning with no Volvo engine, but a shiny small block Vette engine in its place - the Vette manual box was proving difficult with the stick exiting via the stereo and I did not want to start messing with the linkage, so I went Auto box, I was sold a dummy and then went to an Auto Box specialist in the Midlands who was up to speed with everything I needed and knew the Auto Box intrinsically well, as he told me it was the same basic box used on the Astons, Jags etc.

I sold the Volvo to some one who put a supercharger on it and was going to drag race it.

Great shame about Mr Ugland - Cayman Museum looks inviting and a nice trip.
 

Daytona Vette

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The Yellow Daytona (Hope you did not spot the Moon Roofs) is the one that Ralph Eckler built for his wife - it is the car that inspired me, it was on the front and rear cover of the 1983 Eckler's Parts Catalogue.
It was a dream that was never going to happen for me, I had the 80 that was mint, no internet then, I kept it pristine AC plugs, even AC for the Air Filter and the Tyres I imported from the GoodYear factory Ohio to retain the Goodyear Eagle GT 255s - I could not have both Vettes.

Then I found that Ray at Corvette Kingdom was building one and the new owner kept changing engine specs on it, so when I phoned for some thing, I always asked about the Daytona - and one day - it was for sale and Voila! I bought it.

Ralph Eckler made the original Greenwood Daytona bodies for John Greenwood - they were the same body as the 1980 Daytona IMSA Race car (except for a few pieces of external hardware)
there were only 5 Street Greenwood Daytonas built ( All small Blocks with Turbos) in 1980 a Vette cost just over £13K, the Greenwood Daytonas cost between £38K and £53K

After the 5 were made Greenwood then allowed Ralph Eckler under licence to make some for his own re-sale, They were a limited production and then the molds had to be destroyed, but how many were made I have not yet found out and Ecklers have changed hands since then - mine is one of these.
 
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monty

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Can't be a tax disc, but before I get square eyes back to some photos.
Some nice custom paint.


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The Last C3 picture was my car, i bought it for the wife so we could both go to shows, i had the 1979 Trans Am that you can just see the edge of (bottom right corner of photo). The paint job on the Corvette i had done as the original paint was scrap,it was a superb top notch job also had the wheels (two piece split rim) brought over from America.The 2 guys are my friends ,the one kneeling down also had a Trans Am. Was this photo taken at Billing the AAC National show. Both cars were superb with the Trans Am a multi show winner and appeared on ITV news, they did a feature on it at the show.
 

funchi

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monty (y)before I go back and check my posts please please tell me your reg, I just want to reply to Daytona Vette and I take ages to type cheers (y)
 
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